Experiencing the state of immortality without ideation (MP3-Download)
Public Talk 8 Ojai 1949 Ungekürzte Lesung. 69 Min.
Sprecher: Krishnamurti, Jiddu
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"8. Experiencing the state of immortality without ideation - 7 August 1949. • There is no mind without idea, thought and verbalization. • There is no experiencer and the experience; there is only a state of experiencing. • One cannot think about immortality. If one can live in the state of only experiencing then there is a state in which ideation has stopped altogether. • Is it possible to have direct experience of that which is not thinkable and which cannot be put into words? • Q: Is there a way of knowing what is the truth about myself, without illusion or self-deception? • Q: I...
"8. Experiencing the state of immortality without ideation - 7 August 1949. • There is no mind without idea, thought and verbalization. • There is no experiencer and the experience; there is only a state of experiencing. • One cannot think about immortality. If one can live in the state of only experiencing then there is a state in which ideation has stopped altogether. • Is it possible to have direct experience of that which is not thinkable and which cannot be put into words? • Q: Is there a way of knowing what is the truth about myself, without illusion or self-deception? • Q: Is effort a necessary preliminary to tranquillity? • Q: I no longer suppress my thoughts and am I shocked by what sometimes arises. Can I be as bad as that? • Q: Why is it that certain undesirable conditions in oneself do not vanish as soon as they are observed? • Q: Is the artist or musician engaged in a futile thing?"
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